2K views 1 year. Dre Finale Mission 1M-2M you can skip all the set up with this script with kiddion (but this only work if you already complete the story once after that you can repeat them with this simple Script with kiddion). I did 100mil in one day with bunker method, I didn't get banned. U can create a playlist of Blow Up II jobs. 5 mill. The Bunker method is officially broken, see the Known Issues in the OP: v0. keep to yourself and do varying activities is my sayBut it does nothing (I found this in "options" for kiddion's menu) Update Actually it does, but I see the checked box only when I move from the God Mode menu Item. u/kiddion User feedback: I noticed today using v0. Read the Known Issues section here or in the Modest. . 2 > Open Kiddion's Modest Menu (you can do this while you are in the clouds entering the online, just to save time) NOTE: In order to see the menu while you're playing remember to run GTA in Windowed mode, not in full screen. How to use Bunker Method with new update Step 1: Go to your bunker and buy max supplies, then enable “Remove Bunker Supply Delay” in the mod menu. i did a mistake in my kiddion script and Sold a bunker stock for more then 8mil. I agree to this 200%. 2 > Open Kiddion's Modest Menu (you can do this while you are in the clouds entering the online, just to save time) NOTE: In order to see. Useful info: I was using kiddion's menu to bypass the nightclub cooldowns and filling the stocks to sell for around 1 million, i used that method to make money for around 2 weeks making 5 to 8 million everyday, made around 80 millions like that, 3 days ago i started using the AP and RP multiplier and also LS car meet rep multiplier on 2. Junior Member. 8 is that it breaks the phone. 3 - April 30, 2022 - Updated for GTA5 1. • Teleport forward. There is the bunker method which fills your bunker will supplies and then you can sell them. Quote: Originally Posted by BlueRam2012. does anyone know if it still works? if not, any other way to make a lot of money with the menu without getting detected? Archived post. Page 59 - Kiddion's Modest External Menu [Thread 4] - Grand Theft Auto V Hacks and Cheats Forum UnKnoWnCheaTs - Multiplayer Game Hacking and Cheats; First-Person Shooters. 2K views 3 years. Play Dr. After you get out of the bunker, wait for Agent 14 to call you. Just don't abuse it. Lorange7 • 2 yr. I have a question, when people make money with the kiddions menu some say that they prefer the bunker method over the casino method, why is this because the casino method just seems 10x easier and quicker to do. stand mod menu is the safest mod menu it has safe money making options with amazing protections and features it is the best menu for your money half the price of 2take1 and very customizable. ago. Why Choose the. I tried repeatedly. bunker method is safe despite the one mod dude toxic telling everyone it isnt. I used x50 for the speed hack and it worked perfectly! I always had to wait some seconds and got very few transaction errors because I made too many, so I think 50 is perfect. F5. Join Date: Jan 2020. Most of players got banned because of abusing kiddion's just like me. I got around 400 million a couple months ago, but I don't grief, brag, or use God mode in public lobbies. Bunker is safer, but if you abuse it, you will also look suspicious if R* audits you. Also teleporting was safe back then. Use Kiddion Bunker Method or Casino to get some money then buy an Auto SHop At auto shop All colors and Sprays are unlocked and Classic Colors are all Free. Kiddion is still looking into this. Don't do money drops, that's really risky. • Bunker method where you can set the amount, and have the sale go through instantly without doing the delivery. from rigging slots and set my level to 600 via kiddions. The Bunker method is very safe if used wisely, and although we must take into account the statistics of weapons manufactured/sold, I'd say using it 4 times a day (RL) for $8,400,000 total is a good cap. alliable • 1 yr. LintStalker is offline 12th March 2021, 01:59 PM. rigging slots and doing bunker method is easy millions a day. But when i open my profile on social club it says that my cash total earned is $143M and total spent $135M, but my graph is details is jobs $19m betting $10m and others are only a thousands. It’s around $2. I might be wrong but older accounts seem to get away with more cheating. Browse all gaming. Level up: 0%, 1 Points. basically, rig it and spin, then turn rig off and spin and repeat. sell crate, edit sale value for 1 crate to $5. It's safe if you limit yourself to making less than 200M a day using the Rigged Casino Method. Enjoy the game, let the menu remove some suck and. markcrus5 is offline 12th February 2023, 02:43 PM #1517: PR070. has not been banned, the best option is the bunker. So I can tell it's pretty safe. like the first time selling with the bunker it’s all good but when u try it second time instead of going positive the number gets into negative u get like lower amount of money and if transaction is too big it says transaction failed…As long as it isn't completely empty, you'll be fine. 67 mil per sell, try lowering your amount to 2. Buy supplies or steal supplies (depends upon you) Go to Online services > Bunker > trigger production. Select Keyboard to troubleshoot keyboard settings. 5 mil or over won't show up so you have to do it with a value that is below 2. Once kiddion is released, do the following steps : 1) Buy a bunker if you don't have already. Moderator note. <Numpad 5> to activate an option, toggle its value or applying any changed setting. 24K subscribers Subscribe 135 8. menu sale = value if you press (right / 6) set bunker delivery ONE time. This is the only thread where lua scripting in Kiddion's menu should be discussed. ) b2b 3. I myself made 270 mil outta it just to buy all properties. One. Kiddion's doesn't have all that, but it's free, and external, meaning it's much harder to detect (so long as you aren't abusing it to get billions of dollars or something). n00bie. tuners rp booster to 1000 and afk in car meet area 5. The lastest GTAHax works for the latest DLC, lets keep it at that. Voodoo3711 • 2 mo. You rock, keep up the good work Kiddion. Suspend process, wait about 10. Use different sell methods also, not only bunker. You'll find how to do it Reply reply Less_Lead9999 •. Link to Kiddions Mod Menu: you liked the video. It fixes it temporarily until Kiddion releases a new revision of the mod menu (credits: DreamyMonster). The concern that I have with the casino method is that the money that you make gets added to your Cash. Edit: got kicked while writing this post bc I was afk for too long xd. . LIKE and SUBSCRIBE if you enjoyed this video! Don't forget to click the 🔔Bell to join my Notification Squad!-----. Got banned once after some repeated money drops and big purchases before I started using kiddion. will always be relatively safe if the menu itself isn’t detected unless. Don't overdo things like money modding (Casino method etc. I had the hack mostly for money and occasionally spawning vehicles. Page 89 - Kiddion's Modest External Menu [Thread 5] - Grand Theft Auto V Hacks and Cheats Forum UnKnoWnCheaTs - Multiplayer Game Hacking and Cheats; First-Person Shooters. are the bunker is more slower to farm money in the case of Rig Slot Machine if you only use. 5M is detected. kiddion DEVELOPER • 1 yr. ago. Two friends of mine doesn't really want to use kiddions, and I was wondering if I start a bunker mission they get some money along, and also if it is dangerous. Casino rig is pretty unsafe, just do it twice to buy a office and a large warehouse to start doing the CEO method. Used bunker method and got ~20mil on 2 days, bought the chumash bunker and maxed it out, lncreased my rp to 65 using this guide. 16 bunker sale in a day is too much. NB : Just do the grind with the help of kiddion menu. teleportation is safe ONLY in a solo public session. It is absolutely not, bunker method is detected. Other methods got patched as well, including money-dropping. But since you'll be making millions from only 75k, I'd suggest to order since it'll save a hell lots of time). It doesn't matter what your original stock value was and it gives you the set value. modest-menu v0. There is no reeaal interval, just dont spam any options if it doesn't seem work and wait a little bit between a few options, else earn up to 30M a day and 30M a day is considered rather safe. 8. Injector used: nope Useful info: Don't do the 1 billion method. Don't use bunker method anymore. It'll take around 30 minutes, and all of your researchers will be done. Game Version: Rockstar Game Launcher Date of ban:13/10/21 Ban period:1 Month Times banned before:0 Period of cheating before ban: 1 week with this account (otherwise around one year with my other account). Last I heard it was nerfed into Oblivion I thought, and it also requires considerable work compared to 2 minutes at a roulette table. Join Date: Feb 2023. thx for an amazing mod and happy holidays now for bug report and things i noticed bunker method sometimes it starts at insane number 1bil+ or it starts at 0 and goes negative starting new public fixes that most of the time next is i dont know if r* capped bunker. [Protections] Add Disable Remote Sound for networked sounds (for script. Easiest method. However, u still need to be careful. Yep, this menu is extremely safe. PS: And just remember always each one use a mod is own by risk. Can I do the bunker method for a friend? One way I found was to enter the production cars and teleport to the objective, but that's still. + Globals, locals updated, should work fine now. And then remove bunker supply delay from the menu. bunker or casino method is the only somewhat safe way. Im using kiddion and when I do the bunker money method it gives me an error for transaction failing or something. 4M each sale) and CEO crates (for that one you need to change the 'sale_price = 5000000' to 'sale_price = 2400000' before saving the lua). U can create a playlist of Blow Up II jobs. There is the bunker method which fills your bunker will supplies and then you can sell them. For anyone that's still worried about the rigging slots and bunker methods I have been testing this for the past 2 months on a fairly new account not going overboard rig slot machine three times per day one on 500 bet for $500,000 win then lose 4 to 6 times then Max bet win 2. And then remove bunker supply delay from the menu. Anyone saying that the casino and bunker options are detected are lying as Kiddion’s said himself. From what I've heard from Kiddion's users as well as my friends testing it, the method is currently safe to use and nobody has been banned with THIS casino method (you may. I recommend you. granted i was griefing players with the other menus but the point stands that kiddions is the best and safest menu out there. 1. Thx Kiddion. Bunker and Casino works really well, though, I prefer the Bunker method, that I use from time to time to buy businesses or vehicules. Hack used: Kiddons. 1)CASINO METHOD. It is absolutely not, bunker method is detected. It doesn't work, like it's broken somehow. As soon are you're done cutting his call open up the menu, select Online Services -> Bunker Settings -> Set bunker delivery. You can sell bunker stock at max 2698500. 1 > Start GTA Online. Once in, go to the Loss/Theft Prevention tab, but don't buy either. Hi everyone. The only way they could detect is if the were spectating, and they may not bother because it's kind of a slow method. 5 million Lose four to six more times then max bet win 2. Casino Rig is pretty low risk so its probably best to wait for the update instead of risking a ban using other methods! before dlc, i abused the bunker method, to do a test. The unknown cheats community is amazing as well. I think I made close to 300 million within the first 2 weeks of using Kiddions, all from the casino. . 5 mill and execute the option. 25 mil and sell, after that I do a cooldown of 15 minutes on my phone and sell again after the cooldown. Of course there's a limit on making money, so the safest way is the bunker method (buy a bunker, use trigger production and fast delivery, sit on the pc, sell the merch and then outside put 2. Page 63 - Kiddion's Modest External Menu [Thread 5] - Grand Theft Auto V Hacks and Cheats Forum UnKnoWnCheaTs - Multiplayer Game Hacking and Cheats; First-Person Shooters. sabian-wolf • 9 mo. i did it at 22 mill and it still doesn't work. Use either the bunker method until they have enough to buy the sub, and then use the sub to build wealth. 3) Goto your office in bunker and access the laptop and buy stock (yes buy dont steal as that takes time) and wait for the supplies (takes less than 2 sec) 4) Goto kiddion > online services > bunker > trigger production and use it once 5) Then again access laptop and sell stock to los santos 6) Pick up the call from agent 14, hangup and goto. WELCOME TO SUPREME GAMER 2020 (SG2020) CHANNELMod Menu 0. It used to work on other versions but on the 0. Also the safest money making method from my experience is the bunker method. Instead of just rigging slots all the time, I've shifted more towards "legit" methods with the menu like the instant bunker/MC/nightclub restocking and deliveries, $100K minimum Job payouts, $2K cash pickups, no cooldowns on crates, etc. Ghosstsniper1004 • 1 min. Bunker method is NOT nerfed! It works awesome! I trigger production until I have around $20K in sales at Los Santos and do the sale. Posts: 8 Reputation: -2 Rep Power: 0. Modest Menu offers many possibilities and methods (Rig Slot, Bunker, NC, CEO crates, MC Set Supply Deliveries, etc. never excceeded 10m per 1 setting ) 3 - Cheat Engine increased rp multiple times from 20 to 50 then to 100 or 105 ( ps: increased the rp more than 1 time in the same day ) but didn't cause ban until like 20 days later. start a bunker delivery job. Anyone have any input to this? BTW when I used in past, I never went over 2. Always start a new session on the menu before starting the money methods. 9. 54, 1. Q: Is there any way to mod outfits A: BincoHaX for 1. Set the value to something below 2. 365. All can be done in the fast track menu. 1 > Start GTA Online. Kiddion's Modest Menu is an external mod menu for GTA 5 and GTA Online. it is most likely caused by your anti-virus,. Hi, sorry if this question was asked before but if I use bunker method, the money didn't get counted into my Earnings from Jobs stats in the R* website?. I used kiddion on a new account, made 50 million with rig slot machine in 5 days, 1 year later still good. The following are some potential fixes: 1) Consider leaving the Numlock on since doing so will make it easier to understand commands and toggle options since most of the mod's commands and toggle options include numbers and special keys. Kiddion should have waited till 1st Jan 2022 that would have been good way to start a year, but still am not complaining thanks for the mod kiddion. There are already a few older posts about this method, but you need to be carefull guys, this. That was a couple months ago and I haven't been banned. ), it is best to alternate between them and not win too much with any of them. Although I’ve gotten way more money than that ($150m) in one sitting several times about a month ago and the accounts were not banned. 3. So I was doing the bunker method and after this update the set bunker delivery option was gray and you couldnt move it over zero, only down to negative number. Go to the casino,use the spin reward to get 25k chips,do it several times and then change it for money. Start a sale. 57 [External] Q: Why does the repair vehicle function not work in the Online services menu? A: It is broken. Step 3: Press sell, go to “Set Bunker Delivery” then press the button 19 times exactly. Well, no, actually the safest method is not using mods, but right after that comes using a mod menu to play cayo perico, and after that comes the bunker method imo. Turn on Forge Model to get into LSC. 1 > Start GTA Online. General rule of thumb: don't show openly to other players that you are modding. The CEO crate method is not detected and you can make 10 mil per 12 seconds off of 1 crate, fully automatically. 6- LS Rep: credits: ArmenianG. A subreddit based around the Modest Mod Menu (UNOFFICIAL) Members Online. Hey Guys, I've seen a lot of guys asking about the Money making methods with Kiddions, so here's a detailed one. • Night Club option that automatically fills 2 of the items (sports) and something else. 9! [June 2023] *UNDETECTED*!! - YouTube 0:00 / 3:01 GTA 5 Online 1. coz i cant seem to find it myself. does bunker method still a good choice guys, or I should do as kiddion suggest using blow up II mission. 100. Overdo it and you risk getting banned. Level up: 0%, 1 Points needed. Finally, exchange your jetons for money and switch. Money dropping is dangerous, and you should not do it using any menu. That was months ago, still unbannedHere's my opinion: Both Casino rig and bunker are safe short term. Points: 1, Level: 1. General rule of thumb: don't show openly to other players that you are modding. Make sure that the added script is in . stay the fuck away from the casino. Kiddion's Modest External Menu: Bunker Method [1] 1. You just need to go in to your Antivirus and add an exception to either the Executable, or its directory. Meaning, if I need 2 million to buy something, I only do the bunker method once, and I keep my bank balance between $3 - $10 million because I think having $300 million was what got me banned last time. That is my take. You rock, keep up the good work Kiddion. Game Version: Epic Games Store Date of ban: September 2nd, 2020 Ban period: 30 days / Account reset Times banned before: 0 Period of cheating before ban: About month Hack used: Kiddion's modest menu, ( iVritex Menu for a few days while kiddon's was oudated at the end of august) First of all I used cheats always quietly away. 4 - As. Yes. Casino rig you can make upto 50millions $ per in-game GTA day but 47millions is safe in a single session (don't use this feature frequently on solo public lobbies because they can be monitored). 5 million. Modest Menu Lua Scripting Megathread. I’d like to thank Kiddion for all he’s done to. Kiddion figured out a way. This thread is archived. kiddions bunker method solution (worked for me at least) Nvthvn#0497 created a equation to fix this: bunker sale = value of selling the bunker product in los santos. Kiddions Money Method 1. This will take an hour or so. RegardsSo anyone wondering how to use bunker method ( (1) - when the supplies value 10000$ (2) - when the supplies value 5000$,. 2) Increases your chances of being banned *just in case* you are being monitored by R* admin. 👉DOWNLOAD - - 2022If. Bunker sale bunker is safe but please dont spam it be patient play the game do sales 1-5 times give 15-20 Mins each sales and. Rigging the slot machines at the Casino or Bunker Method. Kiddion's bunker method is the king! It's free and exploitable. 9 million and press the 5 on the keypad and bam! Over 2 million in my bank. 5x. i got banned from my other two accounts that weren't using kiddion menu. One such example is that of the ESP. . 7 million is the current limit, above that your transaction fails] And about the glitch, I have never experienced that, maybe because I never get in the vehicle, I just sell stock, wait. 4. 5 mil is the maximum I've added to my account in a single day, using the casino machine and the bunker method. Open Performance Monitor. The mod menu by Kiddion is quite infamous in the market for offering among the best tools in the game. This is the best free mod menu you'll find out there as it's completely external. Casino mods have exclamation mark? I had Kiddions and didn’t ever get the chance to use the casino method, but I re-downloaded it and now they have the exclamation sign next to them. 2189 up to 1. Join Date: Jul 2021. Right click and resume the process. Verified_Retaparded • 1 yr. And that’s permanent and also kinda legit if you wanna do it completely legit you have to. It's a cumbersome process and I gave. Wait until your outside the bunker 6. I used the bunker method yesterday without any issues. my greed was the. 2. 2. As. I did No money drop no casino rig I guess I don’t need that. The grinding method for the bunkers is a bit bugged. From what I've heard from Kiddion's users as well as my friends testing it, the method is currently safe to use and nobody has been banned with THIS casino method (you may be thinking of the various other casino glitches/recoveries that caused the ban wave). I do 1W at 500, 1W at 1500, 2W at 2500 and then I get kick out. As soon as kiddion updates his menu I'm gonna start modding. After you are full, you trigger production and access your laptop, click on the highest amount of money ( I think its los santos with 15k) and after you. kiddion • 8 mo. do it about 4 or 5 times then do cayo about 2 or 3 times and again do. Do u think I got ban because i spent that money really fast or because I gain that very fast I’m about to buy gta on epic to do this again u thing it’s the. TrollMenu - Enable The TrollLoop (main menu) then select player inside the submenu and press NUMPad9, press again to stop and maybe disable BombLoop to prevent accidental trigger. Kiddion is a convineance mod rather than full blown tanks like Luna and other mod menus so id suggest to use GMs and TPs in careful moderation in free mode. Posts: 21 Reputation: 10 Rep Power: 24. Is the money bag method safe? I wanna make sure. So you have these 3 ways to earn lot of money. ) or RP (Level) modding. Also if the Bunker Method isn’t working anymore. NOTE 2: If you didn't completed the first Set Up mission to your bunker you have to do it in order use the method described in this tutorial. zip . If you use Kiddion's mod menu for GTA 5, you won't have to be concerned about using unethical cheats that could get your account banned. It probably is safe but kiddion has very useful feature where you can trigger research so you easily fast track. Next is the bunker which is the meat of this whole operation first thing you get a little bit of supplies I prefer to get at most 31,000 stock after you sell the your stock then when you are outside you change the delivery price ( you have to set it perfectly like I had or it won’t work anything above 2,642,000 will not work I tried many time. 2 > Open Kiddion's Modest Menu (you can do this while you are in the clouds entering the online, just to save time) NOTE: In order to see the menu while you're playing remember to run GTA in Windowed mode, not in full screen. 1. ago. So try the nightclub script also, and you can sell some special cargos also 1 crate for 5,5 million. . Also, you can get manually banned by R* employees entering your session and observing you. Join Date: Apr 2021. 5mil twice a day until i got the notification. WELCOME TO SUPREME GAMER 2020 (SG2020) CHANNELMod Menu 0. 12. Use the Navigation Keys to go to the Set Bunker Delivery option ( Online Services > Bunker. Best bet is you do cayo replay b2b (with panther. Options used: Kiddion's bunker method, sold deliveries @ 2. Have been banned for 30 days and deleting all chars cause use bunker method only for 2. Also, the server admins or the anti-cheat systems of the game will not be able to detect it. grab crate via teleport. Yes, a couple of people only using casino, or only using bunker money have been banned over the past years. menu sale / bunker sale * 2. The CEO crate method is not detected and you can make 10 mil per 12 seconds off of 1 crate, fully automatically. Sell Stock 5. Page 55 - Kiddion's Modest External Menu [Thread 4] - Grand Theft Auto V Hacks and Cheats Forum UnKnoWnCheaTs - Multiplayer Game Hacking and Cheats; First-Person Shooters. From what I’ve seen, it was either the Heist Control or Musiness Banager LUA for Stand that caused the bans, maybe both. There is no eta for when the menu is done updating so please don’t ask when it’s going to be updated. But there's talk of a casino rig ban wave in the future, so i recommend you go into the casino and gamble a ton of money away to get your account to not be suspicious anymore lolIf you run this method in a solo session you can make 2b on chips, but is own by your risk, in my accounts i use this method in a public lobby empty with me alone, and all works perfect, but is your call, you can use this method or the bunker method, the dif. Kiddion for one doesn’t even have a discord, nor a subreddit. i have not tested other Online Services Functions, but Bunker Settings is all i care about. bought free bunker from starter pack and used bunder method to get 100mil repeatable multiple times in. Same thing with the slot machine thing, I guess it likely just tells the random number generators that pick the outcome to stop being random and always land on jackpot. What is the bunker method and how does it work? Guide for Kiddions Mod Menu. 0. Kiddion's bunker selling method for 2,5 million: (2 or 3 a day thats enough for me) Buy a supply for 75k or steal supply,go in kiddion's online services->bunker-> trigger the production 2 or more times, then go to sell stock in your bunker, when you are outside wait the agent 14 call you, and then you can set the value whatever you want in the. Originally Posted by imnothere1234. Dont rig slot machines, its mostly detected and unsafe. If u search google for kiddion mod menu bunker method and click the first link it’ll have a full guide for u. Page 70 - Kiddion's Modest External Menu [Thread 1] - Grand Theft Auto V Hacks and Cheats Forum UnKnoWnCheaTs - Multiplayer Game Hacking and Cheats; First-Person Shooters. I'm solely here to just get money. (Sell it to Los Santos in my case). This is important as the features in kiddions DO NOT affect other players - BUT they do affect YOUR organization (and indirectly any players working for your org. So what you have to do is (after you download the most updated version of Kiddion's Modest Menu of course): 1 > Start GTA OnlineMaking too much money over a short period of time seems to be detectable, no matter what method. Have been banned for 30 days and deleting all chars cause use bunker method only for 2. That was a couple months ago and I haven't been banned. I use this in the Cayo heist for getting through gates and doors. Game Version: Steam Date of ban: May 25th 2023 Ban period: Perm Times banned before: 1 Period of cheating before ban: 0 days Hack used: Kiddion's modest menu and wasabi unlocker Options used: Bunker money method (never crossed 2. 000$ today. Hello there I used the mod a week ago and got too excited that I did the bunker method like 6 times and gain about 7 o 8 mil in like 9 minutes and then spend half of it two days after. And always do solo. Join Date: Apr. The Issue #2 : • Once The Sell Mission starts, the 'Set Bunker Delivery' from 0 automatically begins at - (Negative/Minus) • When you press > (Numpad 6), it goes forward as the old Bunker Method but in a Negative and set it maximum 1M if you have some players in public sessions as it will not go above 2M. and now here. Make the supply bar completely empty. I recommend you to go to Games and scroll down then clikc 6 to find Solo Public Session and thats much easier and safer to do it. for me, i used kiddion to get all of the stuff in heist vault to help my. Wait for an update. Assign staff to research, trigger research, fast track. Sell when your value is only 7-50k then go to Online Services > Bunker Services > Bunker Delay. Horn_Bunny. I'm not sure if Kiddion's method of dropping does trigger any cash spawn events, but P2Cs are blocking them from being sent easily. Page 46 - Kiddion's Modest External Menu [Thread 4] - Grand Theft Auto V Hacks and Cheats ForumYes, just keep your heads up and don't give sense to other player that you're using a mod (applies to any other mod). 1 - Wait until your bunker is worth $56,000 (or utilize the Trigger Production option). If u don't have vpn use bunker method there are tutorials on youtube. n00bie. Doesn't really matter if you have a good menu. i'd use a port blocker when doing so, to be safe, but that's still a lot faster than even insta-sell, max-value Special Cargo and Nightclub runs. I have created 6 accounts just to mess with this menu. 9. I only knew that Kiddions Modest Menu had the unlock function. ago. you won't be banned, i got 150m from casino rig and i used it to get highest level in my guild. Wasting money on such menus, just for a feature that's already there for free, is a thing I wouldn't consider.